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#1 OFFLINE   catscradle77

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Posted 03 August 2007 - 04:43 PM

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Links in the Bay Area are sought to connect the Manson Family to the murders of Clyda Dulaney and Nancy Warren in Ukiah.

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Posted 08 September 2007 - 06:35 AM

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Posted 19 September 2007 - 04:45 PM

these seem possible. with the family in ukiah and in mendocino during this time and the method of murder.

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Posted 19 September 2007 - 05:12 PM

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these seem possible. with the family in ukiah and in mendocino during this time and the method of murder.

I know that I am digressing a bit from the murder in Ukiah but I was curious about the Mendocino arrest.

Was the Mendocino arrest the one in which Roger Smith's wife served as a foster parent for Mary Brunner's baby? And was Roger Smith Susan Atkin's  probation officer at the time of this arrest?

I thought that by the time the "family" had this legal run in, Roger Smith had quit his position as probation officer and gone to work at the Haight Free Clinic.  But then I was reading somewhere that he left the clinic and took a temporary position with Mendocino County shortly before or after the arrest and served in the capacity of a probation officer or something.

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Posted 19 September 2007 - 05:29 PM

I think it was the time of Roger and his wife having Pooh Bear. And didn't they drive either Melcher or Wilson's car to pick up the baby? I didn't know that about Susan. I knew that Smith had been Manson's parole officer before he left and that Barrett guy took over at some point.

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Posted 19 September 2007 - 05:55 PM

You are correct. It looks like  David Mandel was the probation officer for Susan and the others.  He wrote favorable reports for them.

The girls were staying in close proximity to the Haight Clinic before moving on to Mendocino.  Roger Smith wound up with the infant because he had taken a temporary position for the Mendocino County Probation Department around the time the girls were arrested.  And Al Rose from the clinic was collecting data on the girls while they were in jail.

Too bad that Rose, Smith and Mandel were unable to detect how dangerous these people were.  But even so, they probably could not have done anything to prevent these murderers from being out on the streets.

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Posted 19 September 2007 - 06:10 PM

It seems as if they were all so busy collecting data, that they really forgot to look at the subjects. I remember reading that report/study by Smith and Rose, and it seems like they were more interested in the sociological factors of how the group operated, more than the fact that perhaps they had a dangerous mindset brewing that could cause mass amounts of damage.

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 01:30 AM

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What surprises me the most is that there was never any public outrage or pissy news reporter hissing over the fact that Manson's parole officer allowed Manson to violate his parole on various occasions in the 2 years he was out of prison. I wonder why nobody bothered. It bothers me a great deal. Why did Manson get away with so much?

What's really surprising is that George W Bush could ever become POTUS, now that's surprising!!  ??? ???

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 12:56 PM

Touchy!  :o

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Posted 28 October 2008 - 06:42 PM

I recently did the research for the following article which appeared in the Anderson Valley Advertiser Oct 15 2008.  Booneville is located in the Anderson Valley.  I edited out the first half of this article for this posting.  It was about the murder of Barbara Sroud and had nothing to do with the Manson Family.


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Anderson Valley Advertiser October 15, 2008 

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Old Murders Never Die
by Bruce Anderson

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A much colder case began five years before Barbara Stroud was murdered. No one is working on it. Most of the people who remember it remember it only in the bizarre context of the Manson Family because it's mentioned in the books on Manson, and it's mentioned in these books because the Manson Family lived in the Anderson Valley at the time.

On the rainy morning of October 14th, 1968, six miles south of Ukiah, a seven-year-old boy ran out of his trailer home and found his mother dead on the wet ground outside the front door. The boy ran for his grandmother's trailer nearby. She was dead too, garroted like the boy's mother with a pair of long leather boot laces.

The dead women were Nancy Warren, 64, and her granddaughter, Clyda Jean Dulaney, 24, wife of CHP officer, Don Delaney.

Clyda was eight months pregnant.

The seven-year-old was Johnny Ussery whose younger brothers Lane, 5, and Brett, 4, were still asleep. The three boys were from Clyda's first marriage to a logger named John Ussery of Eugene, Oregon. Clyda had left Ussery for Don Dulaney, a Ukiah-based CHP officer twice her age. She was pregnant with Dulaney's child when she was murdered.

Clyda's former husband was quickly eliminated as a suspect when it was verified that he'd been in Medford, Oregon, at the time of the murders.

Finding his mother and his grandmother dead, Johnny had calmly returned to his trailer to get his younger brothers dressed, then, his two little brothers in tow, the three boys trudged south to the home of Don Torell where Johnny told Mr. and Mrs. Torell that "Mommy and Grandma are dead."

A swarm of deputies led by Sheriff Reno Bartolomie was soon on the scene.

The sole witness to the previous night's mayhem, which occurred in a driving rain that obliterated the footprints assumed to have surrounded Clyda Dulaney's outdoors corpse, was Mrs. Warren's miniature dachshund.

The two dead women were fully clothed. They'd both been brutally beaten about the face before they'd been strangled with brand new hightop leather boot laces, two turns of which had been pulled tight around the neck before the laces were knotted in back.

Mrs. Warren operated Nancy's Antique Sales on Highway 101 south of Burke Hill on the two-lane portion of the highway about where the strawberry fields and sales stand are today.

Clyda Dulaney was a graduate of Ukiah high school who, only months before, had left her husband for officer Dulaney, 49, a man several years older than her father.

Clyda's former husband had been engaged in a bitter custody dispute with Clyda for his three boys. Mr. Ussery said Clyda had deserted him and the boys for Dulaney, evidence, he insisted, that Clyda was unstable and therefore not a fit mother.

Robbery was the apparent motive. A metal cash box had been rifled and left on a table although a plastic box and glass jar containing approximately $300 in cash rested in plain sight in a closet of the older woman's trailer.

Officer Dulaney lived in Ukiah with a teenage daughter from his previous marriage while Clyda and her children lived on her grandmother's property at the south end of Burke Hill. Dulaney said they lived apart while he looked for a house in the Ukiah area that would accommodate him, his pregnant new wife Clyda, her three boys and his daughter. When Clyda gave birth to their child, Dulaney would be supporting a family of seven, and he said he wanted a house big enough for all of them.

Dulaney was in Sacramento for a special CHP training course when his new wife and her grandmother were found dead. The investigative assumption from the beginning was that the two women were murdered after he was either in Sacramento or on the road there.

The CHP officer told the Sheriff's office that he dropped his wife and stepchildren at Nancy's Antique Shop at 9:30 the previous night with the intention of continuing on to Sacramento. But, he said, he'd forgotten his uniform, so he returned to his Ukiah apartment, picked up the uniform and continued on to Sacramento via Highway 20 east where he signed in at the Academy at 1:45am.

A neighbor said she saw a blue pickup truck leaving an orchard near the antique shop about 8:15 the morning the women were found. She said five persons "wearing hippie-type clothing" were in the vehicle.

Dulaney, 49, who was described as genuinely distraught by investigators, quickly returned to Ukiah.

"The only information I had was what I had read in the newspapers," Dulaney told the Ukiah Daily Journal at the time. He said he and his expanded family had been watching "The Wonderful World of Disney" at Dulaney's Ukiah apartment before he, Clyda and the boys headed south for Clyda Dulaney's trailer six miles to the south. The family had left Ukiah about 8:45. Dulaney said he dropped his wife and the three boys off at their temporary home and headed for Sacramento where he was scheduled to begin a CHP refresher course the next day, Monday morning. Dulaney said that he had reached Highway 20 before remembering that he had failed to bring his uniform. He then returned to Ukiah, picked up his uniform, and resumed his trip to Sacramento where he logged in at 1:45am.

Dulaney hired Timothy O'Brien, a Ukiah attorney who often represented law enforcement people. O'Brien, who soon afterwards became a superior court judge, said that Dulaney had been "deeply concerned over any false impression which might have been gained regarding his cooperation with the Sheriff's Department following the death of his wife and child."

O'Brien helped Dulaney with his statement for the police.

"When the statement was completed, I signed it," Dulaney said. "There was no lack of consideration."

Sheriff Bartolomie said he interviewed 35 suspects, referring in one newspaper account to "the hamstrings of the Warren Court" which, the Sheriff suggested, had prevented him from detaining a trio of roaming purse snatchers who'd robbed a Ukiah matron in the days prior to the Burke Hill murders. The Sheriff thought the three transients could well have murdered the two women, but, lacking evidence to hold them, sent them on their itinerant way.

A year later, in 1969, following the gruesome killings of Sharon Tate and friends in Los Angeles, Bartolomie said he thought the Manson Family may have also been responsible for the unsolved murders of Clyda Dulaney and Mrs. Warren. The Sheriff said both the Tate murders and the two murders south of Ukiah were "in the senseless category."

And the Manson Family had been in Mendocino County at the time of the Dulaney and Warren murders.

Seven persons belonging to a nomadic cult were arrested on drug charges in Navarro in the Anderson Valley on June 22, 1968. Susan Denise Atkins, 19, aka Sadie Mae Glutz, was among those arrested. Additionally, "Several Mansonites were guests of a Ukiah man at his home off Boonville Road," reported the Ukiah Daily Journal.

But there was never any evidence linking the Manson Family or Dulaney or Clyda Dulaney's former husband to the crime.

Someone or someones came in off 101 in the night, took the money they could see, strangled the two women they found there, and continued their journey to whatever unlucky destination called them. (Research by Deborah Silva.)

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