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#1 OFFLINE   Mike

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Posted 15 August 2010 - 05:21 PM

There aren't so many photos of me kilted, as I'm usually the one with the camera.

A Scottish author, David Ross, had walked from Robroyston, Scotland to London in August 2005, to commemorate the capture of William Wallace and his forced march in 1305. On 23 August, a couple thousand Scots walked the alleged route Wallace was drug through the streets of London, from Westminster to Smithfield, where he was ultimately murdered. A memorial service was held at St. Bartholomew the Great, which was likely within Wallace's sight as he died. A coffin was in the sanctuary and everyone was allowed to place mementos in the coffin, which was returned to Stirling, Scotland. The coffin laid in situ at the Smith Art Gallery and Museum for a couple of weeks, when it was taken to Lanark, where Wallace and Marion Braidfute were married.

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This tribal pipe and drum band is based out of Scotland and they took part throughout the Walk for Wallace ceremonies. Here they are at the Smith, the day the Spirit of Wallace coffin was returned to Scotland. The band was then known as Clann an Drumma (Children of the Drum). The fellow with the snare drum in the middle has since passed and the others have carried on as Albannach (Scotsman).

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Pictures of this fine, young Scot can make me a bit maudlin. Had things gone as originally intended, this wee man would have been my stepson. The band had broken for an breather and we conned Jacquie into letting Aedan have a go at her drum. The little guy is destined to be a leader when he comes of age. I'll no reveal his surname, but his given names are Aedan Wallace Bruce.

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A picture of his mum (she's on the right) at Smithfield, on 23 August, which is also our birthday. She was wearing an arisaidh in my family's tartan on the day.

When we returned the Spirit of Wallace coffin back to Lanark, we had a tent set up on what is now believed to be the site of the marital home of Wallace and Braidfute.

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This plaque was dedicated on the day.

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I was fortunate to have been selected to stand as part of the honor guard on the day. Yes, I was wearing a dirk and as the day wore on, it turned out to be a good thing I was. The day got a bit crazy before it was over.

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Carol and I were preparing a banner for the march to St. Kentigern's Kirk. The short, bearded fellow you can barely make out between Carol and the battle flag is from a wee village in Perthshire and is one of the best friends I have ever known. The fellow behind Carol, in the black and gray fleece, is a pal of mine from Belgium who had flown across for this event.

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This was taken on 29 December 2005, the same day as the image in my profile. I belong to a Scottish Jacobite organization, Na Fir Dileas (The Loyal Men), and we were conducting a commemoration at the grave of Robert 'Rob Roy' MacGregor, to commemorate his death. Since I was back across at the time, I read a bit of Scripture and led prayers at the graveside.

I had flown into Glasgow, just that morning. My buddy Maitland picked me up at the airport and took me to Carol's digs, in the village of Sauchie, about 8 miles east of Stirling. I ran in the door and up the stairs, where I dove into a hot shower. I kilted up, grabbed my Bible and the small bouquet you see at the grave and we jogged to Sauchie Hall, where we jumped on a hired bus. We drove up into the Highlands, to a tiny spot known as Kingshouse. We assembled in front of the Kingshouse Inn and marched 2 miles to Balquhidder, where we performed the service. We then marched back to the Kingshouse Inn, which fortunately also houses the Rob Roy Pub. After a few pints we adjourned to the dining area for dinner and entertainment. And a few more pints. :rolleyes: I knew nearly everyone there and it seemed they all wanted to buy me a pint to welcome me back home.

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We may have gotten a bit carried away at some point in the evening. My memory of the night is a bit blurred. I think some of my pals were coming to ensure I was properly kilted as a 'true' Scot. It somehow never fails. Get a few of us together in one room, add several pints and a few bottles of whisky and before you know it, the sharp, pointy things are being brandished about. I don't know what it's all about. :shrug2:

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This one was taken as I impatiently waited for Albannach to take the stage at the Glasgow Highland Games. Only this was Glasgow, KY.

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Myself and Joe Kilna McKenzie of Clann an Drumma, at Ft. Wayne, IN. RIP, my friend.

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My son, Billy, myself and a dear friend from NC, trying to cool off after a particularly intense session of tribal dancing to Albannach's set.

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Jamesie Johnston of Glasgow (l) and Aya Thorn of Pitlochry ® have Billy at the point of a dirk.

As for my family, all I can say is I am an exile. Here is what it left of my ancestral home, Toward Castle, located near Toward Point, Argyll on the Cowal peninsula.

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The Lamonts were Royalists and had fought with Montrose against Argyll, who supported the Covenanters. The Campbells lay siege to both Ascog and Toward, forcing a surrender.

On 3 June 1646, Sir James Lamont signed terms of capitulation with the crook-mouth Campbells, to surrender Toward Castle to them, if his family would be allowed to gather their possessions and travel safely from the area. Fortunately, Sir James was able to convey a copy of the terms to his sister, as the next day, both Ascog and Toward were razed. Sir James and his brothers were taken to the Marquess of Argyll's family seat at Inverary. The remaining defenders of Ascog and Toward were taken by boat to Dunoon and massacred. Many were buried alive.

15 years later, Sir James successfully brought charges against Argyll, who was subsequently beheaded.

Both James Graham, the Marquess of Montrose, and Archibald Campbell, the Marquess of Argyll, are memorialized within St. Giles' Cathedral in Edinburgh. On a visit to the Cathedral, I managed to lay a white rose at the effigy of Montrose, and then walked to the St. Eloi's Aisle and spat upon the effigy of Argyll. :nod:

The Campbells successfully proscribed the Lamonts, after which many family members fled Cowal and took up residence in other areas with assumed names. The few that were brave enough to remain in the area were eventually driven off their lands as the lairds began moving sheep into the area. My forebears, who had come to Cowal from Islay even before Lauman arrived from Ireland in the early 13th Century, were forced onto floating coffins and sent away to the New World. They arrived in Nova Scotia in the early 19th Century and made their way west to Detroit and then south to the Cherokee, Peoria, Potawatomi and Wyandot Native American Reservations of Oklahoma. My great-grandfather moved to this area of Indiana in the latter part of the 19th Century, because of some of the Native American ties to this area. I have a distant cousin that keeps urging me to come to Oklahoma, so he can take me out onto the res to meet other branches of my family. What is interesting is my family had ties to the MacDonalds of Islay before moving to Cowal. And then, my family ended with ties to Chief John Ross of the Cherokee Nation, whose mother was of MacDonald/Cherokee descent. And it was a contingent of Campbells who were sent by William of Orange and Dalrymple to wipe out the House of Donald at Glencoe.

And earlier today, I reminded my 2 year-old granddaughter what my grandmother always taught me. As long as trees are in the wood, there will be treachery in the Campbells. If it sounds like a grudge, it is. But it is part of what my family brought from our ancestral home and it remains a part of who we are. Just as we never allow Stinkin' Billy in a flower garden, drink toasts made over bowls of water and open our doors at the bells on Hogmanay.

Here's tae th' King sir, ye'll ken wha I mean sir. An' e'ery honest man that'll dae 't agin.
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Posted 15 August 2010 - 10:44 PM

Thanks Michael, it's nice to have a face to put with a name. You are a great storyteller, keep the family history alive for the grandkids. They may not find it very important or interesting now but they will truly appreciate it later in life.

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Posted 15 August 2010 - 11:31 PM

WOW, Mr. Mike!!! I'm touched, really I am, that you took the time to write and post pictures so I can know something about your clan and clan history. What an interesting family and history and friends you have. And I loved the pictures of your friends and family. Funny you have a Jacquie and an Aedan. My oldest daughter's name is Jacque and my son's baby's name is Aidan and my son's middle name is Wallace. Wallace is a family name, so I just followed the tradition. I know what a busy guy you are, so I honestly appreciate all you did just for my benefit and of course the others, too, who are equally interested in you. Good to see a face, too, this one not a teeny tiny one, either. :laugh: Thanks, Mr. Mike!!! :cats7:

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 03:08 AM

Mike,

Great story and pics!! Thanks for sharing. Sometimes being :offtopic: is better then being on topic. I have to go find my DVD of Braveheart now, one of my favorites.

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 07:05 AM

I agree, the movie was a good one. Absolutely inaccurate with respect to history, but a good enough move nonetheless.

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Standing atop Abbey Craig, overlooking the Forth River valley, where it is believed Wallace and Andrew Moray were as they led the Battle of Stirling Brig, on 11 September 1297. If you see the cream-colored building on the rise at the right of the picture, that would be Stirling Castle. And yes, that's about a 200 foot drop, directly behind me and it was windy as the Dickens.

Here's a little-known, off-the-beaten path story for you.

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In the center of the image, you can just make out a tower. That is a view of the ruins of Cambuskenneth Abbey, from atop the Wallace Monument at Causewayhead. There is very little known about Wallace's early life, most of it which has come from a a poet known as Blind Harry. Blind Harry wrote The Actes and Deidis of the Illustre and Vallyeant Campioun Schir William Wallace approximately 172 years after Wallace's murder. However, there is some evidence to suggest Wallace was well-educated and had studied for some period with the monks at Cambuskenneth.

When Wallace was murdered, it was not nearly so neat and clean as the movie suggests. He was drug through the streets of London to Smithfield. And in the 14th century, streets also served as sewers, mind. He was castrated, disemboweled and then beheaded. After his death, his body was quartered. His head was tarred and displayed on a pike at London Bridge. The four quarters were sent to Newcastle upon Tyne, Berwick-upon-Tweed, Aberdeen and Stirling, to be displayed as a warning to the Scots what rising up against Edward I would lead to.

Legend has it Wallace's left arm and shoulder were nailed to Stirling Brig. Late one night, the monks from Cambuskenneth removed the arm and carried it to Cambuskenneth Abbey, where they gave it an appropriate burial, marking the spot with an unmarked stone.

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And isn't it rather odd how the stone has some of the appearance of an outstretched arm and shoulder?

The Wallace Stane is in the NW corner of the Abbey enclosure, just inside a hedge at the edge of the property. And if you stand at what appears to be the shoulder and look down the stone to the tip at what it might be pointing toward, you see this -

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The Wallace Monument, standing atop Abbey Crag, at Causewayhead.

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The white roses we laid at the stone.

Cambuskenneth Abbey is approximately 2 miles from the Wallace Monument and maybe as much as 3 miles from Stirling Castle. But many people visit the Stirling area and never realize it is there. It is worth the visit to see the tomb of King James III, King of Scots and his Queen, Princess Margaret of Denmark. And how many people visit for that reason and never know the story behind the Wallace Stane?
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Posted 16 August 2010 - 12:35 PM

You just keep adding on to this, Mr. Mike. I'm very interested in this and so are all the others. Being an armchair traveler, I digging all the beautiful pictures of Scotland. I bet its even more beautiful in person.

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P.S. Thanks for the info on William Wallace. We watch Braveheart whenever its on, and I know they used dramatic license with it and have read about few of the false things in the movie, but none of what you have been telling us.
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Posted 16 August 2010 - 02:05 PM

View PostBottledbrunette09, on 16 August 2010 - 12:35 PM, said:

We watch Braveheart whenever its on, and I know they used dramatic license with it and have read about few of the false things in the movie, but none of what you have been telling us.


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And guess who has just wasted two hours watching Braveheart and playing with Photoshop ...

I could have mentioned many other things that were historically 'wrong' with the movie, but you
get the point.

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 02:34 PM

Very interesting thread. I just skimmed through it, but am looking forward to reading it in more detail at a later time.

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Posted 16 August 2010 - 03:04 PM

View Postjempud, on 16 August 2010 - 02:05 PM, said:

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And guess who has just wasted two hours watching Braveheart and playing with Photoshop ...

I could have mentioned many other things that were historically 'wrong' with the movie, but you
get the point.

Jem [in party-pooper mode]
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Posted 17 August 2010 - 08:20 AM

Jem, there are more inaccuracies.

The battle depicted as 'Stirling' in the movie most definitely took place in the shadow of Stirling Castle. However the tactical maneuver that likely gave Wallace and Moray their victory was how they dropped Stirling Bridge into the River Forth, before all of Longshanks' troops had crossed over. Yet nowhere in the movie do you see a river or a bridge. A pal of mine in Stirling, Ted Christoper, performs music throughout Scotland with the Bannockburn Band and recorded a song called, Where's the River, Mel? It's a hoot.

Wallace did kill William Heselrig, but Heselrig did not kill Marion Braidfute who was called Murron MacClannough in the movie.

Whilst Robert the Bruce was as on and off again with the English as John Erskine, the 6th Earl of Mar who is also known as Bobbing John, the Bruce was not present at the First Battle of Falkirk in 1298. At no time did he ever attempt to deceive and/or defeat Wallace in battle and in fact, Wallace was one of the Bruce's strongest supporters.

Princess Isabella was ten years of age when Wallace was murdered. She married Edward II after he ascended the throne, not before, and she never held the title Princess of Wales.

If Edward II led an alternative lifestyle, he must have been bisexual as he managed to father five children.

The death of Wallace's father at Loudoun Hill hill is questionable at best. Blind Harry starts the myth by stating his father was killed in 1291. If that was the case, Wallace would have been approximately 21 years of age, since it is generally accepted he was born around 1270.

As inaccurate as the movie is, it did one thing. It awakened the interest of countless people in Scotland and in their Scottish roots. I am a strong supporter of anything that can raise awareness about Scotland.

Since we're talking about Wallace, here are some images taken at the Wallace Monument. On my first trip across, we felt it might be improper for me to drop in, out of nowhere, to take up residence at the house, so I booked a small place in Bridge of Allan. I think I actually did spend 2 or 3 nights there, even. :rolleyes: In order to get to Sauchie, I would tramp to Stirling Uni and catch the bus there. And this is one of the things I enjoyed so much about the Stirling area. There is so much to see and do there.

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As I would walk down Henderson Street, Stirling Castle would often be floating in the mists, just to the south.

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And then I would come around a curve in the street and there would be the Wallace Monument, atop Abbey Crag.

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This is generally accepted to be Wallace's Claymore. Ehhhh...

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The Monument as seen from Stirling Castle. There is a shuttle bus to take visitors from the car park at the bottom of Abbey Crag to the top, but the standing joke is that only the English ride the bus. (Yes, I know, how terribly racist.) So, we walked to the top. and then when we got to the top, we ended up walking up the winding stairs leading to the top of the Monument itself. Which meant, of course, we had to walk all the way back down. I spent the night in Bridge of Allan and woke the next morning (the day of the Wallace Homecoming in Lanark) with shin splints. I limped across to Stirling Uni and missed my bus by this >< much. :rolleyes: Since it was a Sunday, I had the choice of twiddling my thumbs for an hour or setting out on foot. The MacRobert Centre wasn't open for a coffee, so I tramped the three miles east to Menstrie, where I finally managed to catch the bus for the 5 mile ride to the house. A pal picked Carol and I up and off to Lanark we went. We parked in a Tesco's lot, which ended up being about a mile from the town center. Then we walked to the town park for the blessing. Then we walked to St. Kentigern's for the return of the Spirit of Wallace to the kirkyard. (After which several of us surreptitiously loaded the coffin in a van so it could be spirited away to prevent a battle on the streets of Lanark, which is another story in and of itself) Then we walked back to the town center for a bit of revelry and then back to Tesco's for the ride back to Bridge of Allan. I walked my feet down to the knees and my legs were screaming in pain for several days. Walk, walk, walk, walk, walk, everywhere we went, we walked.

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And as seen from Old Stirling Bridge, which is version 2 of 3.

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The pilings for what is felt to be the Stirling Bridge felled by Wallace and Moray's forces in 1297 are located in the approximate foreground of this image.

Here is a video of the 2009 Stirling Bridge Commemoration, with Ted Christopher performing the song he wrote for the Walk for Wallace and Wallace Homecoming events, called I'm Coming Home.



I was at a Scottish National Party do at the Terraces Hotel in Stirling one cold January night and Ted was providing entertainment. We had a pint together and when he took the stage, he dedicated this next one to my presence. I think I would have won the long distance award, had there been one.



So that one is for all of you with so much as a drop of Scottish blood flowing in your veins.
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Posted 17 August 2010 - 08:26 AM

Im Irish, and claim Ireland as MY Island (bit from the movie, loved that character)

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Posted 21 August 2010 - 04:39 PM

View PostAttyla, on 17 August 2010 - 08:26 AM, said:

Im Irish, and claim Ireland as MY Island (bit from the movie, loved that character)
Ahh, yes, good, old Stephen. "I am prettier than this man."

I got the lyrics of Ted's Where's the River Mel?

Where's the River, Mel?
Ted Christopher

An Australian came to town one day and he brought a film crew
Said, “ You’ve got a story here. I’ll tell you what I’ll do.
I’m gonna take this man called Wallace and I’m gonna spread his fame
And very soon the whole wide world will know your hero’s name.”

So he talked to the historians of battles that were won
And how that day at Stirling Bridge we made the English run
Then he talked to all his money men and it seems they had their way
‘cos they made the film in Ireland so now I’ve got to say

“Where’s the river Mel? Won’t you stand here with me?
Look down from Stirling Castle, tell me what’s that you see?
That’s a river Mel and it’s where it’s always been
So how come there’s no trace of it upon your silver screen”?

We fought hand to hand to save our land, it was hot and sweaty work
When the English come we bared our bums, we did not give a f………..oot.
Then we turned back to the water’s edge to wash off all the gore
But it’s hard to bathe in a river that ain’t there anymore

“Where’s the river Mel? Won’t you stand here with me?
Look down from Stirling Castle, tell me what’s that you see?
That’s a river Mel and it’s where it’s always been
So how come there’s no trace of it upon your silver screen”?

Well they called the film Braveheart and it was loads of fun
It wisnae much like history but at least we still won
Now the tourists come from o’er the world to gaze down on this place
But as they look out to the monument there’s surprise upon their face

Cos there’s a river Mel and its where it’s always been
So how come there’s no trace of it upon your silver screen
Aye that’s oor river Mel – the real battle scene,
where Wallace sent them homeward to think again

So if you ever get to thinking that Bannockburn could be a theme
Please remember Mel “burn” is Scottish for a stream.

This monstrosity was placed at the Wallace Monument, but has since been moved over to one side of the car park, where you don't have to look at it if you care to protect your e'en. Click to reveal the frightenin' thing in it's entirety.

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You can just barely see how statue has been enclosed in a cage, because it was coming under regular attack by the locals. Legend has it Mel Gibson was taken to the Monument to see the so-called Braveheart statue and he whined the stone mason had made his legs to short. Gieusabreak, Mel, it wisnae meant tae be ye inna first place! Another legend says they tried to auction the bluidy thing off and couldn't get any offers for it. :rofl:
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Posted 04 September 2010 - 06:19 PM

View PostMike, on 21 August 2010 - 04:39 PM, said:



This monstrosity was placed at the Wallace Monument, but has since been moved over to one side of the car park, where you don't have to look at it if you care to protect your e'en. Click to reveal the frightenin' thing in it's entirety.

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You can just barely see how statue has been enclosed in a cage, because it was coming under regular attack by the locals. Legend has it Mel Gibson was taken to the Monument to see the so-called Braveheart statue and he whined the stone mason had made his legs to short. Gieusabreak, Mel, it wisnae meant tae be ye inna first place! Another legend says they tried to auction the bluidy thing off and couldn't get any offers for it. :rofl:

That is absolutely hideous. Whether or not it was meant to be Mel--the thing looks like him. Can't they just, you know, blow it up or something?
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Posted 04 September 2010 - 06:26 PM

It's utterly grotesque, isn't it? At least they keep it in the car park and not atop Abbey Craig.
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Posted 04 September 2010 - 06:38 PM

View PostMike, on 04 September 2010 - 06:26 PM, said:

It's utterly grotesque, isn't it? At least they keep it in the car park and not atop Abbey Craig.

It looks very cheaply made--like it was poured out of plaster of paris, or made of papier mache. I pity the people that use the car park.
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Posted 04 September 2010 - 09:43 PM

View PostSherdelune, on 04 September 2010 - 06:38 PM, said:

It looks very cheaply made--like it was poured out of plaster of paris, or made of papier mache. I pity the people that use the car park.
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