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Jane Doe #59 police sketch

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#21 OFFLINE   TooLate

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Posted 08 June 2010 - 09:28 AM

Identikit sure looks like Laura to me in several features;
http://www.charliema...shots/mug-4.htm

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Posted 08 June 2010 - 09:41 AM

View PostTooLate, on 08 June 2010 - 09:28 AM, said:

Identikit sure looks like Laura to me in several features;
http://www.charliema...shots/mug-4.htm


I thought that too, but she is alive and well.
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 10:23 AM

New to this site & it's very interesting. Great information. I've been doing a lot of research on CM and everything related to him. This "Jane Doe 59" is a sad case. To me, the sketch looks like Susan Bartell & she was there during Zero's death. (Jane Doe was found only a couple days later) The only information I can find on Susan is that she left the Family shortly after Zero's passing...? I haven't spent a lot of time on Susan but I thought it was interesting. The sketch also looks like Diane Von Ahn which I cannot find any information on her.

I know have a lot more information on Jane Doe 59 but it's buried deep in my paper work.....

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 11:40 AM

Welcome Ruby.

Diane VonAhm lived for many years after the Manson saga, but a few years ago she passed on.

Sue Bartell is alive and well.
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 11:41 AM

Also, if you can find the info about Jane Doe #59 to post I would love to see it.
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 12:03 PM

View Postrubybelle, on 31 July 2010 - 10:23 AM, said:

New to this site & it's very interesting. Great information. I've been doing a lot of research on CM and everything related to him. This "Jane Doe 59" is a sad case. To me, the sketch looks like Susan Bartell & she was there during Zero's death. (Jane Doe was found only a couple days later) The only information I can find on Susan is that she left the Family shortly after Zero's passing...? I haven't spent a lot of time on Susan but I thought it was interesting. The sketch also looks like Diane Von Ahn which I cannot find any information on her.

I know have a lot more information on Jane Doe 59 but it's buried deep in my paper work.....
Hi Ruby. Always good to have a new obsessive with a new perspective. Welcome aboard. :welcome:
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Posted 31 July 2010 - 12:26 PM

View Postmahlerfan, on 31 July 2010 - 12:03 PM, said:

Hi Ruby. Always good to have a new obsessive with a new perspective. Welcome aboard. :welcome:
Thank you!

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Posted 31 July 2010 - 12:41 PM

Basics which you probably already know; she had 157 stab wounds and her right eye was stabbed,the same way as James Sharp and Doreen Gaul's.

I do know they have her dental records, fingerprints and DNA. Police are still attempting to extract all DNA from her clothing to see if there's more than her own. Also because of her clothing labels they suspect she came from Europe or Canada.

This murder also happened during the "thrill kill" period, when several hippie's were found murdered and they suspect Bruce Davis but cannot prove it.

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Posted 09 September 2010 - 06:51 PM

Pourchlightusa.com has info on case, different drawings of JD59 and jewerly she had on.

http://z13.invisionf...?showtopic=8610

Date of Discovery: November 16, 1969
Estimated Date of Death: November 14, 1969
"Cause of Death": Victim was stabbed to death

Approximate age: 20 - 23 years old
Approximate Height and Weight: 5'9 1/2"; 112 lbs.

Distinguishing Characteristics: Tinted dark brown hair; green eyes. Vaccination scars on left arm and left outer thigh, one-quarter-inch scar under right breast, light brown birthmark on right buttock.

Dentals: Available. She had silver amalgam fillings in upper teeth numbers 2, 3, 4, 5, 12, 13, 14, and 15, and lower teeth 18, 19, 20, 21, 28, 29, 30 and 31.

Clothing: Blue corduroy jacket, size 9-10 made in Canada; Blue hip-hugger Levis, made in Boston, MA.; tan, knee-length, riding type boots (possibly made in Spain), well worn and resoled; tan sweater, size 32; belt marked Thom 38 or Tham 38, The belt is leather, about two inches wide, with one-inch leather strips which go through a brass ring.; Yellow metal ring with red oval stone on right ring finger; white metal ring with Indian designs on left middle finger, made in Mexico.

Pictures of Victims Jewelry




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Posted 09 September 2010 - 06:54 PM

Welcome Bree and thanks for the info.
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Posted 09 September 2010 - 06:56 PM

Adding rest of page:

Circumstances: The victim was located on Mulholland Drive and Skyline Drive, Los Angeles, CA. She was found down an embankment alongside of Mulholland Dr by a hiker. She had been stabbed to death, and there is evidence of a "rage" or overkill.
The DNA evidence is tentative. Police are still attempting to extract a DNA profile from blood from her clothing.
Because of the labels in her clothing, detectives suspect she may have come from Canada or the east coast, possibly Europe.

**Sources: DoeNetwork: http://doenetwork.us.../358ufca.html**

Additional info from LA Police. She was stabbed in the throat with defensive wounds on her arms and hands. She was found fifteen feet below the roadway
Fingerprints are available

Los Angeles Police Department
Cold Case Homicide Unit
Detectives C Shepard and J Ramirez
213-847-0970
You may remain anonymous when submitting information.

Agency Case Number:
69-668376

Coroner Case Number:
1969-12644

NCIC Number:
U-393785300

http://z10.invisionf...topic=6583&st=0



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