Hiking to the 5 can be done from the Los Feliz area where the La Bianca's lived. If one goes by sound at night, you can find the 5. You have to go over some walls, private and state, get into a gully and then trek through some cut barbed wire fences and on the other side of some hills is the 5. You are correct, Mike, it can be done, it is logical. But for some reason, I just did not think the hit squad would be capable of doing it... Why? I just do not see the killers as V. Bugs portrays them. I think of the Manson girls and guys as not being that analytical or prepared. Did they have flashlights on them at Waverly, they did not at Cielo. More importantly for some reason that I can not really put my finger on it, the Family did not strike me as having the moxy to hike it to the 5 by way of cross country at night. Yes, after the murder they were without transport and they were not seen walking out of Los Feliz, so the cross country night hike is the best logical answer. On the freeway they got a lift. I know they lived like urban nomads (Manson group), but they never struck as tough pioneer types. Also in 1969, the police tended to target thumbing groups that was made up of hippy women. Police of that era, liked searching and enforcing the law when it came to pretty-sexy hippie girls. I would have thought a CHIPs or local officer would have likely seen this group on whatever freeway or road that they were on, because it was very late and the LAPD was out in numbers after what happened at the Tate house, the night before. So many things about Waverly and Cielo just do not make sense to me.