I really wish some new info on this case would emerge. Anyway, I finally watched Charles Manson Superstar and I have to say that I was really impressed with it. I think there was a little too much Charlie interview-wise, but I genuinely enjoyed Schreck's presentation and I found myself agreeing with a lot on that aspect. His opinions were thoughtful and in general it is an easy watch and a good way to look at the case from the pure-Charlie angle. I also came across a no good piece of shit documentary called Death Scenes: Manson. Its advertised as being about Manson, and it is mentioned with a tad of depth, but its just a shockumentary. The Manson footage, which consists solely of crime scene footage, is interesting as it shows some images I havent seen elsewhere or that I dont see often. The majority of the movie is a "Faces of Death" type of film where it shows gore and crap like that. Its very low budget with a horrible narrator, even worse music, but I think the biggest fallacy is its presentation. Its just image after image of death without any context other than general (WW1, WW2, Vietnam, etc) categories. War isnt the only one, but without the context its just repetition of horrible imagery and is blech. I can handle gore in context.
Yerblues-I thought the same thing about Death Scenes. I had to shut it off. I can handle the gore usually, but the flashing images etc. really just plain got to me, and I couldnt take it. I tried to give it away in the classified section but I had no takers. People save your cash.
Is that the same piece of crap (among a lot of pieces of TLB/Manson crap out there) where they supposedly video taped themselves on creepy crawls ? That one was trash too.
Yea, I watched the first 10-15 minutes and it was pretty pointless. If they had even 30 seconds of backstory to the images it'd be a lot easier to sit through. It felt like A Clockwork Orange type of thing. I ffwd to the Manson part, eh, shut it off that was it. And brian, no I think you're thinking of something else.
I think Brian's referring to "Manson Family Home Movies" and its variations. I suppose it is predictable that something like that surfaced, but it is a nauseating piece of film which I dare say served its intention to refund its budget. I found "Charles Manson Superstar" rather transparent in its direction. While I suppose it was refreshing to have an alternate view on the Manson phenomena, the film was nothing more than a promotional film for CM and his followers.
I daresay the clue was in the title! No offense intended, Simon - couldn't resist. I liked the Steve Railsback 1976 TV movie "Helter Skelter". He was a convincing Manson, as I remember. Jem
Yes Jem- I really liked that dramatisation. Thought whoever played Bugliosi was very good. The remake sucked rather badly I seem to recall.. I dare say that the reality is that there has been no definitive take on this story whatsoever. I imagine that to tell this story outside of the myth is likely to turn the financiers off. Pity, as the truth is far more fascinating than the received wisdom. This is from ‘The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence.’ screenplay by James Warner Bellah and Willis Goldbeck, 1962. Sums it up. Ransom Stoddard: ‘You’re not going to use the story, Mr. Scott?’Maxwell Scott: ‘No, sir. This is the West, sir. When the legend becomes fact, print the legend.’
