Six Degrees of Helter Skelter - Shorty Shea

Thank Tammie (Rhiannon) for linking us to other a few other segments. This is the Scott Michael's segment on Shorty Shea.



It is around 9 minutes long -

Some important items...

Shots of the Coroner's Office and an interview with an assistant to the Coroner who explains Shorty's autopsy.

"Died of stab and chop wounds" he surmises that an ax might have been used for the fatal blows to the skull.
(Could that have been the old bayonet? I have not clue)


Item: Here in Florida we use machete's for all sorts of work in our yards. They help with dune work on the beach fronts, undergrowth in the palmetto scrubs etc.

I use my machete in a chop pattern. Near to me there is a Civil War reenactment festival. From what I've seen of bayonet's they aren't used to chop, they are used - in and upward - sort of like a Samari Sword movement.

When looking for a prior link to this y-tube site, I noticed Cats talking about Ruby Pearl - it's midnight she says. Shorty had just asked her if he could stay at her house since he was afraid of CM gang 'getting him"
They drive up. There are 3 of them. She watches him leave with them and thinks he can take care of himself since he is a bouncer. SAY WHAT?

I think she lied. She shrugs and walks away? No way. Unless human beings are more denial than I assume they are...

I 'think' at that point my response would have been "Shorty do you think you can drive me home? Sorry you guys but Shorty promised he would do some work for me in the morning."

What goes with that?

How many people personally know anyone that was murdered? What are the chances Ms. Pearl knew someone that was murdered(correct me if I am wrong)especially by 'hippy' type people? When/if Shorty told her they were out to do him in, perhaps she felt the worst that would happen would be a fist fight. Like they were trying to rough him up, intimidate him so he would leave, or at least leave them alone. Looking at Clem and Charlie who would they intimitdate w/out weapons? We look back on them as murderers. No one knew them to have killed anyone at this point. Just my thoughts.

I don't think she realized how dangerous the Manson gang really were. Shorty was also really big and if he wanted to could fight off Manson, Bruce, Clem and Tex himself. I think she just thought he could take care of himself.

I was lucky most of my life to not know personally a murdered person, but last month, my cousin's son was murdered. He was in the wrong place at the wrong time and was killed by some asshole gang members shooting into a crowd at a popular area where lots of citizens from both sides of the state line go to eat dinner and drink. I thought I would always be one of the lucky ones who never knew a murdered person.

My condolences to both you and your cousin. Unfortunately, crime sometimes plays no favorites on who it strikes. By the time I was two years out of high school, I had two friends murdered. One, execution style in a walk-in freezer during a robbery, and one trying to break up a fight. Also the one I mentioned in another post that was murdered by an inmate doing life for killing his own brother. Incidents like these drove me to be less forgiving and more demanding of the accused/convicted. I have learned over the years, even with my heart of stone, to appreciate the ones you love, cherish the life you have, and look for the good in everything. Sometimes it is not there, but never become so jaded as to make your own life too negative. My thoughts and prayers to you.

You may need to feel that you have a heart of stone because of the work you do but the rest of that line and the following 2 lines prove otherwise my friend.
It saddens me to hear about young people who don't even get the chance to live their lives be it by murder or otherwise. Who knows what they may have become? Really sad.

FB

Perhaps she feared for her own life if Shorty was with her. Just a thought.

I thought that was horrible the way she just let him go and never saw him again. To top it all off she is smiling when talking about what a nice guy he was to reporters and anyone else that happened to ask. That segment made me want to smack her in the face but she was a tough old bird and could mop the floor with me.....
FB

Come to think of it, sadly, I can think of two people that I knew well, and one I had just met the night she was murdered, and, oh, I just remembered, I talked to this one lady who's husband worked for my ex, and he killed her, so that makes three people I knew in different ways.
I don't know...I think I would be a little worried if someone told me they were scared someone might kill them. you might be right, though, maybe she knew more than what she was letting on, and didn't want to get involved.

I need to edit my comment above (edit button would of been excellent at this time). I thought of originally two people. One I knew well, because he was a student I worked with, and he was murdered, and the other one, I had just met at a birthday party that my mom was invited to and she didn't want to go alone, so she asked me to go with her, and I met this woman, and her husband killed her a few hours later. Then, a few years later, my ex worked at a restaurant and this woman called a few times for my ex and I talked to her and she seemed nice, and her husband killed her on Thanksgiving one year. So instead of making it sound like I knew 4 people, I only can think of 3 people I knew in various levels of familiarity that were murdered. Weird and sad.

When I was re-reading this thread, I suddenly remembered a student, and two women who were murdered by their husbands, don't know why, other than my mind is like a sieve, that I didn't remember them, but I guess because the two women were murdered in the 80's and the student was murdered about 15 or more years ago. I think I better start doing mind exercises because I'm noticing I'm getting more and more forgetful about a lot of things
Thanks for the condolences for my cousin's son, and my condolences to your friends. That's really sad. I talked to my cousin about his son last year when I saw him at a funeral (I haven't seen him for a few years), and he was sad, but seemed at peace with it. He wears a button on his shirt with his son's picture on it and last year at our annual 4th of July picnic family reunion, he didn't show up again, but some of his family did and they were wearing teeshirts with his son's picture on it. And fortunately, I think they caught the guy who did it. The father in law was a detective in the homicide division, of all things, and so, naturally, the case was always on the front burner and probably took first priority. How they found the guy, I don't know, since it was a drive by shooting, and of course, they were trying to kill a rival gang member and my cousin's son was in the wrong place at the wrong time, but they found him and I suppose he's had his day in court and is sitting nice and pretty in prison somewhere.

I lost a family member who was murdered by The Sacrifice Killer, I have lost friends to Murder, I lost a good childhood friend who murdered another good childhood friend over drugs the murderer, going to prison and the victim going to his grave, we were all close until we grew up and drugs took over their life's. I lost another good friend to suicide Drugs again taking over. I saw the effects murder had on a class mate who lost a family member to a senseless murder. I had a cousin who committed a senseless murder and was put to death in the gas chamber at San Quentin Prison in 1952, I have been to the funerals and I have seen first hand how Murder effects/changes Family,s and friends. There is no going back once this horrible act has taken place there are no winners there is only heartbreak and sorrow for the remaining victims to live with. I have to agree with some of you on here if you do not cherish the family and friends you have while you are on this earth. I feel sorry for you because they are truly all one can asked for. Rip to those who are no longer with us ,and God Bless the rest of you that have the time to reflect and change.

I've known 3 murder victims as well as having a homicide in my family. A friend's flatmate's best friend (nice woman too) killed with a samurai sword that she kept over her bed for decoration by a one night stand creep she had met in a bar... who thought beheading was fun. Also a guy a friend used to have a casual relationship with, killed by homeless street people 'crazies' that he only moved amongst because of an addiction - all because they suspected him of some really crazy shit he never did to do with an unsolved arson at one of their squats. And now that I've just finished writing that the third has gone right out of my head - suffering fatigue! Yes I can't stand when people don't be tolerant and easy on others close to them, they don't seem to realise homicide and other accidents can mean they'll unexpectedly never see someone again. It's not hard to be self disciplined and hold ones tongue when you have nothing nice to say, a sign of maturity to do so imo.

A girl I was really close to my sophmore year of high school (boarding school) was stabbed to death by her ex boyfriend. She had moved out of their place and had a restraining order against him. She was a school bus driver and he got on her bus before route and killed her. She left 3 children, two boy and one girl! He was the father to the youngest girl! 31 or 32 years old! So sad and such a young life!

That is sad. Stuff like this always makes me sad, because the person doing this is so bloody selfish. They just don't think or perhaps care about the ripple effect murdering someone does.

Does anyone hear from Courtney? I miss her posts and wish her well.
FB

Well, he's rotting in jail for the rest of his life and has to go into solitary confinement every year on the anniversary of her death! The children stay with her sister now and from what I have heard they are really thriving. You're right though the selfishness of that man and other people like that are absurd! Can't imagine what those children have to go through on a daily basis!

Me, too.