More from TJ

Discussion in 'TJ Walleman' started by catscradle77, Jan 15, 2008.

  1. catscradle77 Administrator

    TJ Walleman testifies about the .22 used in the crimes. From September 11, 1970:

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  2. Lilmagil Member

    I see your working hard on Zamora, Great stuff and a lot of work..I'm still getting lost in all the info on your site.
    I know TJ died in a car accident some years ago..but I read somewhere his wife� "Ansom13" has also passed.. she was quite young as I remember and they had a child..I wonder what happened.
  3. catscradle77 Administrator

    I don't remember what happened to Ansom, but it is true she is deceased.
    TJ died in the vehicle he bought from Bill Nelson...
    I will see if I can dig up or if anyone knows how Ansom died..
  4. Lilmagil Member

    WoW!!!...how weird....in a car he bought from Bill...(conspiracy theories running amuck in my mind) just kidding... ;D. I never knew that! Let me know what your find out about Ansom...
  5. catscradle77 Administrator

    I shall indeed.
    And it was a car or a truck...and if my memory doesnt fail me at some point Bill bitched on his old website that he never got full payment for it or something along those lines. (or that could just be me hating Bill, lol)
  6. Lilmagil Member

    I found a way to still view �l Bill`s website...You most likely already know this..I just learned this old archiving trick.
    http://web.archive.org/web/19991013131432/mansonmurders.com/viewingpages.htm.
    I never had a chance to see it in the day...so was all second hand info to me..He sure was losing it!
  7. catscradle77 Administrator

    Yes. And he stalked people and then got all biblical near the end. It was kind of creepy...
  8. bryane New Member

    On youtube there is a 'manson family reunion'  It has TJ and Ansom, being questioned by Geraldo, I assume just after his Manson interview. 

    Ansom 13 was born in '63 and died in '98, but i can't find much else about her.  Was she with them as a child?  On the show she has the same anti-social attitude that a lot of them had.  The other thing that strikes me is there's no way to picture her as being married to TJ.  It wasn't a very good show, just a lot of yelling mostly.

    I did find a letter addressed to them from Sandy, and in it she pretty much slams them for trying to get money from Manson.  (After she died they sold all the stuff she'd left in storage to pay the bill)
  9. Uncle Ace New Member

    TJ's kind of an enigma.  I've read places that claim him to be a biker, a vietnam vet, a hippy, etc., but nobody ever cites sources.
  10. catscradle77 Administrator

    And on that Geraldo episode, what the hell was with the John guy with the paper in his glasses?
  11. Uncle Ace New Member

    i got the distinct impression he was messed up on something.  sadly, tj made more sense than anyone else up there.  and who thought letting nellie bring that knife with him was a good idea?
  12. catscradle77 Administrator

    Ummm Nellie?
  13. Uncle Ace New Member

    i just can't help but think security mustve been pretty lax.  that's not a monster blade, but it still goes 6 inches.  i can't even get a friggin pocketknife in at a concert.
  14. catscradle77 Administrator

    But it was Geraldo, and I bet you he let Nellie for shock value.
  15. Uncle Ace New Member

    yer right.  for a split second, i typed when i'd forgotten that geraldo's journalistic integrity isn't quite on par with others'....like nellie's.
  16. catscradle77 Administrator

    Exactly...and according to Nellie, Tj et al tried to get him to go to their room and party with them...lol.
  17. Birds Away New Member

    Well, who wouldn't want to party with Geraldo? ::)
  18. catscradle77 Administrator

    No they tried to get Nellie to go smoke with them lol
  19. Birds Away New Member

    Hell thats worse than Geraldo.
  20. Uncle Ace New Member

    just imagine....nellie, geraldo, ansom, and tj in an nyc hotel room, getting high.......good time being had by all til nellie gets the munchies!

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