Current Bid - Start Bid 150.00 USD [ Convert ] Quantity 1 # Bids 0 Location 87734, New Mexico Country United States Time Left 2 days, 4h 8m Start Time May. 09, 2008 13:25:55 End Time May. 16, 2008 13:25:55 Status Open Reserve Price Not Met Swap offers are accepted for this item. [ Make an Offer ] High Bid No Bids Seller Information DUKES (67) Registered since Oct. 31, 2007 in United States Other items from this seller Reputation Rating 100.00% 67 0 0 0 0 View Reputation Description Gary Hinman was murdered by Manson Family members; Bobby Beausoleil and Susan Atkins. This is an authentic "Official Property Tag" which has been dated 9-25-70 and still has the original string attached to the tag. Detective Paul Whiteley who was assigned to the case appears to have filled out this evidence tag and written his last name. A must for the serious Charles Manson Family collector!
they were tagging evidence over a year after the murder? another bang up job! wonder what was attached...Paging Detective Paul Whiteley!
[quote author=Lilmagil link=topic=2924.msg22789#msg22789 date=1210790767] they were tagging evidence over a year after the murder? another bang up job! wonder what was attached...Paging Detective Paul Whiteley! [/quote] I don't know how chain of evidence works, but if it was done on 9-70, I wonder whose trial that was for?? Bobby's was over (his 2nd) wasnt it??
[quote author=Coroner In Law link=topic=2924.msg22799#msg22799 date=1210798552] Cats You're probably correct w/ the Bobby trial 2. [/quote] Okay then I wonder what it was, and if they kept the TLB exhibits for years and years I wonder how this tag got loose. Unless it is from an evidence locker or something... Weird fact. I can't find a copy of Bobby's first trial anywhere. The courthouse claims that since it was a hung jury they don't keep records. Burton Katz says he lost his in a house fire. No one else says they have one. Ed Sanders mentions reading a copy in his book, and I emailed him to ask him and he never answered me. I thought court records, hung jury or not, are still legal documents and have to be kept???
I thought at least he could have said hey I dont have it... But then with his investigator larsen blowing me off too...makes me wonder.
[quote author=ecnivb link=topic=2924.msg22827#msg22827 date=1210852587] It's enough to get a cat's back up. [/quote] LOL...and it is just a crazy thought. I mean, the transcript has to be somewhere???
I don't know Ca. law but most states say that any trial counts! Testimony can be re-used if witness is unavailable(depending on circumstance) so it can't be destroyed.
[quote author=Coroner In Law link=topic=2924.msg22836#msg22836 date=1210878477] I don't know Ca. law but most states say that any trial counts! Testimony can be re-used if witness is unavailable(depending on circumstance) so it can't be destroyed. [/quote] That is what I thought. Either something is in there, or something is up with it. Any clue where to turn next?
Since so many older trials have never appeared on the web U are forced into that paying for transcripts merry-go-round :'(
The transcript place (my friend contacted them) said they only keep copies for so long and this trial is too old...
