[quote author=kdimm link=topic=4324.msg37354#msg37354 date=1250450425] [quote author=catscradle77 link=topic=4324.msg37352#msg37352 date=1250448271] [quote author=kdimm link=topic=4324.msg37350#msg37350 date=1250447760] [quote author=catscradle77 link=topic=4324.msg37345#msg37345 date=1250446660] Jamie-- I wouldn't say Manson in His Own Words is actually Manson speaking...it is more Manson in Emmons words..if you look at some of the letters of Charlie's and how he uses words, it definately (at least to me) is not Charlie coming thru in that book... How much of it is true, dunno. Emmons is dead so we cannot ask him. Cats [/quote] In the Emmons book does he not admit in the preface that Manson's grammar and such had been cleaned up for publication? As far as just making tstuff up,what would be the point of Emmons doing that? [/quote] Kdimm- Dunno but if you are gonna call something Manson in His Own Words, shouldn't you leave them in his own words? Well, the cash angle is one...maybe the truth in the whole matter isnt as dollar worthy...I think one should just ask Wabbitt about that [/quote] The thing about Rabbit though is that he flat out lies about stuff that has no basis in truth in order to make money and get attention. I can't really think of any explosive revelations in the Emmons book that would have made it more of a moneymaker for the author. All it really seems to be is the same story that has been told before but with Manson putting a spin on things to deny any responsibility for what happened. [/quote] That is why I have read Taming and Manson/Words to try and see what is consistent. Listening to Manson is, as Cats puts it, headache inducing. The Bunny, from what I have read on the Col's blog, was at the Ranch maybe one day and they ran him off. Now, if THOSE girls could not bear him, well........ LOL Jamie
Kdimm-that is true...I do not know but it would be interesting to see what Manson had to say page by page against the Emmons.. Jamie- What is even sadder is living your life a lie by a day that happened 40 years ago...that is really sad.
[quote author=catscradle77 link=topic=4324.msg37345#msg37345 date=1250446660] Jamie-- I wouldn't say Manson in His Own Words is actually Manson speaking...it is more Manson in Emmons words..if you look at some of the letters of Charlie's and how he uses words, it definately (at least to me) is not Charlie coming thru in that book... How much of it is true, dunno. Emmons is dead so we cannot ask him. Cats [/quote] Manson INK is his own words and I am going to get back on that soon, sorry it took so long but hey, the hours are long and the pay sucks. I know you wanna see the juice that door page 1234 567 all gods children GOTTA wait till I get some time. I have read it myself like 8 times and it is good. How we started it was as a diary like thing write when you can whatever you want about anything he did too and goes into the case on certain pages of it. Keep your eyes open for it and you be the judge of it. I am only the employee HERE with long hours and NO PAY.
Just on Manson in his own words-there is a interview with Lynette and she says-i was furious about this book because it was clearly not going to be in Mansons own words but then i actually read the book and there is a lot of truth in it.
[quote author=jadedjamie link=topic=4324.msg37356#msg37356 date=1250450795] [quote author=kdimm link=topic=4324.msg37354#msg37354 date=1250450425] [quote author=catscradle77 link=topic=4324.msg37352#msg37352 date=1250448271] [quote author=kdimm link=topic=4324.msg37350#msg37350 date=1250447760] [quote author=catscradle77 link=topic=4324.msg37345#msg37345 date=1250446660] Jamie-- I wouldn't say Manson in His Own Words is actually Manson speaking...it is more Manson in Emmons words..if you look at some of the letters of Charlie's and how he uses words, it definately (at least to me) is not Charlie coming thru in that book... How much of it is true, dunno. Emmons is dead so we cannot ask him. Cats [/quote] In the Emmons book does he not admit in the preface that Manson's grammar and such had been cleaned up for publication? As far as just making tstuff up,what would be the point of Emmons doing that? [/quote] Kdimm- Dunno but if you are gonna call something Manson in His Own Words, shouldn't you leave them in his own words? Well, the cash angle is one...maybe the truth in the whole matter isnt as dollar worthy...I think one should just ask Wabbitt about that [/quote] The thing about Rabbit though is that he flat out lies about stuff that has no basis in truth in order to make money and get attention. I can't really think of any explosive revelations in the Emmons book that would have made it more of a moneymaker for the author. All it really seems to be is the same story that has been told before but with Manson putting a spin on things to deny any responsibility for what happened. [/quote] That is why I have read Taming and Manson/Words to try and see what is consistent. Listening to Manson is, as Cats puts it, headache inducing. The Bunny, from what I have read on the Col's blog, was at the Ranch maybe one day and they ran him off. Now, if THOSE girls could not bear him, well........ LOL Jamie [/quote] I have had many Manson Headaches I understand that one.
[quote author=jadedjamie link=topic=4324.msg37344#msg37344 date=1250445975] My dear Cats, I have read some of your responses to the Bunny. I congratulate you, they are classic! LOL. While I do really like so many in that group, it is becoming too much for me, the ATWA"s, I call them. They have not even read the books on the case, and even if they did I have a feeling it would not matter to them. Manson can do no wrong in their eyes. It baffles the mind. Even if you print and quote from the book, Manson, In HIS OWN WORDS, they refuse to accept it. Feeling some are young and in need of some truth, I try in vain to inform them. They do not care. It is quite sad and frightening in a way. Jamie [/quote] ATWAs thats funny I am not one thank you very much I know you didn't call me one, but just in case. I eat meat, and don't hug trees. I know a few who comment on my videos. You better stay away from my clips.....I have Manson defenders there. Lol Peace you guys crack me up.
[quote author=Michael link=topic=4324.msg38615#msg38615 date=1252128278] [quote author=jadedjamie link=topic=4324.msg37344#msg37344 date=1250445975] My dear Cats, I have read some of your responses to the Bunny. I congratulate you, they are classic! LOL. While I do really like so many in that group, it is becoming too much for me, the ATWA"s, I call them. They have not even read the books on the case, and even if they did I have a feeling it would not matter to them. Manson can do no wrong in their eyes. It baffles the mind. Even if you print and quote from the book, Manson, In HIS OWN WORDS, they refuse to accept it. Feeling some are young and in need of some truth, I try in vain to inform them. They do not care. It is quite sad and frightening in a way. Jamie [/quote] ATWAs thats funny I am not one thank you very much I know you didn't call me one, but just in case. I eat meat, and don't hug trees. I know a few who comment on my videos. You better stay away from my clips.....I have Manson defenders there. Lol Peace you guys crack me up. [/quote] No, our dear Michael, I was not speaking about you. I am talking about certain people who have no idea about what happened or why. They just use Manson as a figure to express their dissatisfaction with the whole world. Maybe ATWA people was an unfair term to use, and I apologize. Anyone who is trying to better this planet is doing a great service to us all. The people I speak of would probably have a difficult time telling someone what ATWA even stands for. Which does lead to a question~ What does CM really think of these people I just described? The ones who really just use him to try and be cool and Goth? Jamie
[quote author=jadedjamie link=topic=4324.msg38644#msg38644 date=1252160194] [quote author=Michael link=topic=4324.msg38615#msg38615 date=1252128278] [quote author=jadedjamie link=topic=4324.msg37344#msg37344 date=1250445975] My dear Cats, I have read some of your responses to the Bunny. I congratulate you, they are classic! LOL. While I do really like so many in that group, it is becoming too much for me, the ATWA"s, I call them. They have not even read the books on the case, and even if they did I have a feeling it would not matter to them. Manson can do no wrong in their eyes. It baffles the mind. Even if you print and quote from the book, Manson, In HIS OWN WORDS, they refuse to accept it. Feeling some are young and in need of some truth, I try in vain to inform them. They do not care. It is quite sad and frightening in a way. Jamie [/quote] ATWAs thats funny I am not one thank you very much I know you didn't call me one, but just in case. I eat meat, and don't hug trees. I know a few who comment on my videos. You better stay away from my clips.....I have Manson defenders there. Lol Peace you guys crack me up. Surprize Cats....guess what I have letters FAN Letters these people write him, he don't bother answering them and usually gives them away. I asked him once hey can I have a weeks worth of your fan mail and he gave it to me. I will make a clip of it one day. I have so much material we could sit all day and night looking at it. Hopefully one day we can when its all online. I am glad you like this stuff because it was surely very hard to get. [/quote] No, our dear Michael, I was not speaking about you. I am talking about certain people who have no idea about what happened or why. They just use Manson as a figure to express their dissatisfaction with the whole world. Maybe ATWA people was an unfair term to use, and I apologize. Anyone who is trying to better this planet is doing a great service to us all. The people I speak of would probably have a difficult time telling someone what ATWA even stands for. Which does lead to a question~ What does CM really think of these people I just described? The ones who really just use him to try and be cool and Goth? Jamie [/quote]
Michael, all I can say is EWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHc1HW8-558 And this is why sobriety is our friend, and why, some people are better not heard or seen... A lovely lovely clip of the Bunny, Michael...is there more to this or is this the end? Do you have the tape of him in Inyo rambling on? For I would like to see that one too.. I know I know, I want I want :-*
[quote author=BamaGal link=topic=4324.msg39293#msg39293 date=1252888710] Doesn't that guy ever take a shower and change clothes? [/quote] No. Never.
[quote author=Michael link=topic=4324.msg37322#msg37322 date=1250441253] Charisma NO NOT AT ALL my dog has more. He just wanted to be noticed and I noticed Him. I quickly figured him out too. Bill nelson and him went to Death Valley to dig bodies up in the 90s I think he started that rumor , because they later returned with dogs to dig again. Bill Nelson Got Rabbitt on tape there with The police in Death Valley talking about the bodies burried there. I have it somewhere and you could plainly see he was lying to the police. Bill Nelson couldn't plainly see, but I could. If I run across the video I will post it. [/quote] I don't know if he started the rumour or not. Susan Atkins has supposedly told people that there were 3 bodies buried 8 feet deep between Barker & Myers. Another site has this to say: "Ed Bailey along with Vern Plumlee,once told Steve Zabriske and Michael Lloyd Carter (Zabriske's brother-in-law) that a "Charlie" and a "Clem" had committed the Tate/LaBianca murders. This conversation took place in Portland, Oregon and Zabriske told Portland police about it on November 2, 1969. Bailey also said he had seen Charlie shoot a man in the head with a .45 automatic in Death Valley. Police did not believe Zabriske and did not notify LAPD. In May 1970, LAPD questioned Bailey but he denied the story."
White Rabbit, {what a name for a grown man :} admitted in another Manson group that he lied. He said he did this to get a free trip and free food. He said talked as if he were proud of watching those people dig in 110% heat for dead teens. Not to mention that maybe some families of missing teens may have been watching and praying to finally find closure. Jamie
In an exchange I had with him on yahoo messanger a few years back he said the same thing to me. We had a disagreement about him trying to blame the death of George Peters on Manson and the crew during the trial (Peters didnt blow up until the 1980's) and Bruce being the Zodiac. (which on the Colonel's blog he tried to deny at points. It is all crytal clear on Tom Voigt's Zodiac board) Which makes him an extreme liar, willing to tell whomever what they want to hear and then deny saying it when it fits him
this thread answers questions that I asked in another thread thismorning. Compared to him CM is dignified. Did he really love Charlie as muichs as he says he does.
[quote author=catscradle77 link=topic=4324.msg41993#msg41993 date=1258582048] Which makes him an extreme liar, willing to tell whomever what they want to hear and then deny saying it when it fits him [/quote] I don't think it makes him an extreme liar, I think it makes him a pathetic one.
